Mr. Goldstein, pardon me, I don’t mean to offend, but your style is so turgid I can’t make out what it is you’re trying to convey. “Zionazi” I get, but it’s unnecessary. I guess you’re against the genocide, as are all people with the least amount of decency. In other words, everyone with an iota of common sense.
In short, your work smacks to me as conspiro-theorising. As a secular Jew, I admire the history and many of the Jesuit’s accomplishments. Not all. But how in hell did an always rather small society like the Jesuits get into your stories. Brits, nazis, bolshies, crazy zionists, et alia? Geez. Just saying.
> "but your style is so turgid I can’t make out what it is you’re trying to convey"
Yes, the tone of my writing here on Substack has a bend to it. Initially it was my intention to write with "academic profession," but the insertion of sardonic humor is, to my admission, simply too fun to pass up.
> "but it's unnecessary"
It's not my fault the word "Zionazi" was coined with terrible tardiness; if mainstream observers were more than happy to use "Communazi" as a pejorative description of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, why not "Zionazi Pact" for Haavara?
> "your work smacks to me as conspiro-theorising"
Well, what am I supposed to believe, that global events are the product of organically random coincidences? Besides, I provided dozens of high-quality citations to prove the links in between, and pieced-together massive pictures necessitate sensibly condensed explanations.
> "But how in hell did an always rather small society like the Jesuits get into your stories"
Watch Walter Veith's "Total Onslaught" series, specifically his lectures on Freemasonry, secret societies, and the New World Order. The Jesuits as the inheritors of the Knights Templar Johannite/occult tradition comprise the central seat of the Satanic cauldron and therefore are the masters of cabalistic black magic among dark secrets of ancient knowledge employed to the most unscrupulously sinister ends.
> "Brits, nazis, bolshies, crazy zionists, et alia?"
I explained the connections in this article. If you read it in full, it should all add up.
This whole article relies on the assumption that there's a difference between the British upper class, the Catholic power elite, the Jesuits, and the freemasons, as opposed to "the Jews".
If you actually study the history of all of these groups you'll realise that Jews dominate all of them. In fact half of the time people mention "the Jews" we're talking about one or all of these groups.
The British central bank was bought by the Rothschilds (as was every other Western central bank), the Vatican bank is owned and controlled by the Rothschilds, the Jesuits were founded by Jewish "conversos", as was freemasonry.
To say the Jews didn't create communism but Anglo elites, Catholic elites, Jesuits, and Freemasons did, is akin to saying "a pack of dogs didn't bite this girl, rottweilers, dobermanns, and golden retrievers did"
> "If you actually study the history of all of these groups you'll realise that Jews dominate all of them"
Okay, then please show me the evidence proving "the Jews dominate all of them." My article here is undergirded by 12 dozen footnotes -- you didn't cite ANY sources, Leo.
> "debunks the whole article"
Sigh, all you did is make claims, Leo. No refuting evidence was provided by you as of yet. Are you able to substantiate any of your arguments, yes or no?
> "British central bank was bought by the Rothschilds (as was every other Western central bank), the Vatican bank is owned and controlled by the Rothschilds, the Jesuits were founded by Jewish 'conversos', as was freemasonry"
Alright, let me address these claims real quick...
...first off, the Bank of England: yes, historically its most prominent shareholders was the Rothschild family. That doesn't prove however that all of British Scottish Rite Freemasonry is run by the Jews. The Rothschilds serve as "managerial stewards" appointed as middlemen and don't operate as the controllers out of their own magical will. The greatest trick by the world rulers is that they elevate court Jews into the most publicly visible positions of "authority" to trick the masses into believing "the Jews" are the ones dictating the scenes. So the fact you are pushing "Jewish control" narratives proves that you, Leo, have swallowed the very deception mechanism the world controllers are sending down your throat.
Jesuits founded by "Jewish conversos"? You're going to need evidence for that, buddy. The Jesuit Order was created, funded, and deployed by the Venetians and Knights of Malta. Also considering the Jesuits' centuries of ideological ultramontane orientation as chief promulgators of Catholic anti-Jewish hatred throughout Europe rallying pogromist mobs against the Jews, the idea they were created as a "crypto-Jewish" sect is completely ludicrous. Unless you're also willing to maintain consistency and thereby admit that the Nazis were puppets of the same "Jewish conspiracy," your arguments hold next to zero water, Leo.
Ironically, by promoting anti-Jewish propaganda, Leo, you are repeating the lies of the exact same Nazis who slaughtered millions of Orthodox Christians in WWII. You do realize this, don't you?
> "Okay, then please show me the evidence proving "the Jews dominate all of them." My article here is undergirded by 12 dozen footnotes -- you didn't cite ANY sources, Leo."
I didn't cite sources because the evidence about Rothschild ownership of central banks is widely known and only the most ignorant and uninformed among the masses are unaware of these facts. Was I giving you undue credit by assuming you weren't totally ignorant?
> "first off, the Bank of England: yes, historically its most prominent shareholders was the Rothschild family. That doesn't prove however that all of British Scottish Rite Freemasonry is run by the Jews."
Never said it did, this is a bad faith moving of the goalpost. I said the Rothschild ownership of the British central bank proves that Jews have gained a controlling influence over British policy and the political elites.
> "The Rothschilds serve as "managerial stewards" appointed as middlemen and don't operate as the controllers out of their own magical will."
It's not "managerialism" when you OWN the bank. This is a red herring.
> "The greatest trick by the world rulers is that they elevate court Jews into the most publicly visible positions of "authority" to trick the masses into believing "the Jews" are the ones dictating the scenes."
This just proves you're completely ignorant of the history. The Rothschilds did a hostile takeover of the central bank through deception, using the stock market. They had sent a spy to the battle of Waterloo, who informed them of Napoleon's defeat before anyone else in Britain knew. They pretended that Britain had lost the battle, which caused major British shareholders to sell their stocks, which were then covertly bought by an attorney of the Rothschild family.
They were never "elevated", like all Jews they gained their power by deception, lies, and manipulation.
> "So the fact you are pushing "Jewish control" narratives proves that you, Leo, have swallowed the very deception mechanism the world controllers are sending down your throat."
The truth about the Jewish question is the single most censored and frowned upon topic in the world. Meanwhile I can find dozens of mainstream media articles making the same nonsensical claims that you are making, about Jews being the eternal scapegoat. That should tell you which narrative is being forced down people's throats.
> "The Vatican isn't a subsidiary of the Rothschilds; quite to the contrary, it's actually the Rothschilds who are owned by the Vatican."
Do you even know what the word "subsidiary" means? Tell me who sounds like a subsidiary in these examples spanning centuries:
From mainstream Wikipedia articles:
However, Alessandro Torlonia (acting for the Holy See) held direct negotiations with James Mayer de Rothschild and thrashed out an agreement, signed on 30 November 1831. Thus in 1832 the Rothschilds’ agreement to provide a loan to the Holy See for £400,000 (equivalent to £4.7 million in 2023) came into force.[2]
James Mayer de Rothschild, head of the French Banque Rothschild, became the official Papal banker.[2] His Naples-based brother, Carl Mayer von Rothschild, geographically closer to Rome, went to meet with Pope Gregory XVI in January 1832. Here Carl Mayer was presented with the ribbon and star of the Sacred Military Constantinian Order of Saint George. It was customary for Catholics to show reverence for him whom they regarded as the Vicar of Christ, to kiss the Pope's feet when meeting him. As a Jew, Carl Mayer von Rothschild was permitted to simply kiss the ring on his hand instead.
Dr. Alfred Hartmann, a former general manager of Union Bank of Switzerland and later general manager of Rothschild A.G. in Zurich, was a director of Banco Ambrosiano’s holding company in the Bahamas. He resigned after a scandal involving payments to the alleged assassins of Roberto Calvi, the bank’s chairman .
Additionally, a 1984 report noted that a $46.5 million loan from Banco Ambrosiano was transferred into a Rothschild Zurich account in the name of Telada Corp, though it remained there only briefly before being moved elsewhere .
> "Jesuits founded by "Jewish conversos"? You're going to need evidence for that, buddy."
"It reveals that several studies have found that the Society's founder and its first Superior General Ignatius Loyola came from a converso family and that he had wished he had been Jewish to have the honor of being from the same race as Jesus and the Virgin Mary."
Source: "From Windfall to Fall: The Conversos in the Society of Jesus" - Arrow Marc Rastoin, S.J.
There's your source "buddy". Something you could have googled in 1 minute if you were actually a good faith debater.
> "Ironically, by promoting anti-Jewish propaganda, Leo, you are repeating the lies of the exact same Nazis who slaughtered millions of Orthodox Christians in WWII. You do realize this, don't you?"
This dishonest emotional appeal just further proves that you're not debating in good faith.
Anti-Jewish sentiments have existed in Orthodoxy for thousands of years before National Socialism came about, as have anti-Jewish sentiments in the West in general.
“The Jews sacrifice their children to Satan… They are worse than wild beasts. The synagogue is a brothel, a den of scoundrels, the temple of demons devoted to idolatrous cults, a criminal assembly of Jews, a place of meeting for the assassins of Christ, a house of ill fame, a dwelling of iniquity, a gulf and abyss of perdition…
The synagogue is a curse. Obstinate in her error, she refuses to see or hear; she has deliberately perverted her judgment; she has extinguished within herself the light of the Holy Spirit…
[The Jews] have fallen into a condition lower than the vilest animals. Debauchery and drunkenness have brought them to the level of the lusty goat and the pig. They know only one thing: to satisfy their stomachs, to get drunk, to kill and beat each other up like stage villains and coachmen…
I hate the Jews because they violate the Law. I hate the Synagogue because it hates the Law and the Prophets. It is the duty of all Christians to hate the Jews.”
- St. John Chrysostom, Homilies against the Jews
“The Zionists want to rule the world”, warned holy monk of Mt. Athos Elder Paisios before his death in 1994.
"And we shall see later on that this particular document (the protocols of the Elders of Zion) had a definite role to play in Germany. The philosophy which is described in this
document is one of absolute ruthlessness in bringing about a revolutionary government and in the means used to bring it about, the using
of people (like Marx used Bakunin), utter hypocrisy, killing off your enemies, spreading pornography in order to corrupt the youth, causing revolutions, taking first the side of monarchs, then the side of socialists, then the side of liberals, democrats; taking any side in order to push across your point of view and eventually come to power. They talk about the control of the press, the control of money, etc."
- Fr. Seraphim Rose, Orthodox survival course
Truth is universal, and the Orthodox Church (and Christianity in general) has been teaching this truth since its founding by Jesus Christ. Which is why the Jews have been intent on destroying Christianity for all this time.
So you're either extremely ignorant or very dishonest when you pretend this viewpoint is inextricably linked to Nazism, as if all of this is something that Hitler made up out of thin air.
Additionally there is no evidence to believe that the mass murder of Orthodox by the Catholic Croat Ustase was something sanctioned by Hitler, nor was it National Socialist policy in general. We know from the documents that Hitler tried to stop it as soon as he found out. Hitler had after all protected mount Athos from bombardments by placing the Monastic peninsula under his personal protection. Furthermore the White Russians had also supported the National Socialist cause after the October Revolution.
But of course when you're cherry picking events to support propagandistic Philosemitic historical revisionism, you can't allow for these nuances.
> "the White Russians had also supported the National Socialist cause after the October Revolution"
Yes, the White emigres supported the same Nazis who ended up slaughtering millions of Orthodox Christians in WWII when they broke the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and instigated Barbarossa. But according to you and your ilk, only the "Jewish Bolsheviks" (who were killed off by Stalin and didn't hold the real long-lasting power, mind you) can be blamed for the mass murder of Orthodox Christians while the Nazis are let off the hook. You demonstrate yourself a disgrace to the very Orthodox Christianity you claim a part of!
One day if the door of probation closes in your face and leaves you out of God's kingdom, don't say I "didn't warn you," Leo. Go on and reject the latter rain's droplets to your own demise. It's your own choice to make and with a profoundly shattered heart people like myself reap the privileged burden of watching people like yourself choose the path of reprobate perdition that will never be erased from our memories until the Almighty God makes everything new after the lake of fire and causes the old mortal realm's miseries to be forgotten.
Comprehending the truth is realizing that you and I are no fundamentally better than the average Jewish contemporaries of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ's earthly generation in the 1st century.
I'll answer your last question: I briefly scanned through your listed Chrysostom quote and am already broadly familiar with his anti-Jewish invective.
Chrysostom unfortunately was a fifth columnist -- he threw the Quartodecimans out of the Asia Minor churches. 2nd-century church history proves Quartodecimanism was based on biblical, apostolic teachings. Christianity is innately of Hebrew character, cf. my chiastic expositions here: https://adversusbabylon.substack.com/p/debunking-nazijewism-202
Other than that, I think my responses are sufficient for the meantime. At this point in my dilapidated, miserable, deprived, fed-up life state of perpetually nihilistic cyclical sanity erosion, I don't have the driving energy anymore to respond to your points, seeing you so far refuse an intake of my core message at hand. Why continue vainly attempting to persuade you further right now? On a concluding side note, do appreciate you checking out this article in the first place and engaging in the comment section here, Leo -- all the best to you.
This comment alone discredits you from any serious discussion about Christianity.
And you're proving my point with these disingenuous Jewish tactics.
This chutzpah is precisely the behaviour that gets your people in trouble. You trash our faith, call us fakes, then cry victim when Christian societies decide they don't want to harbour these vile manipulative parasites any more.
The fact you resort to citing Wikipedia on such historically buried and niche topics goes to demonstrate your narrative is built on a foundation of jello.
> "The truth about the Jewish question is the single most censored and frowned upon topic in the world. Meanwhile I can find dozens of mainstream media articles making the same nonsensical claims you are about Jews being the eternal scapegoat. That should tell you which narrative is being forced down people's throats"
That's one-dimensional association fallacy. If you understood how COINTELPRO co-optation mechanisms work, you wouldn't need to invoke such a bland argument, Leo.
I'm going to cut through the smokescreens and get to an important point seldom emphasized far enough, Leo: Orthodox-Jewish reconciliation all along was the true alleviation to preventing a wide range of Pandora's boxes from being opened. Why do you think hundreds of thousands of Russian Jews flocked to the Zionist criminal project occupying Palestine? The answer is very simple: because they were marginalized and alienated in the Russian Empire and USSR, and were easy prey falling for Anglo-Zionist propaganda blitzes.
It's people like YOU, Leo, who are part of a generationally responsible current fueling the very so-called "Jewish criminality" you claim to oppose. The more you go off about ranting about Jewish world control garbage canards, the more you drive Jewish populations into supporting Marxist and Zionist criminal projects because those Jewish swaths who feel they are "persecuted" will all the more align themselves with liberal, Communist, neo-Marxist, and Zionist "patrons" co-opting their plight into false and criminal hopes.
The reason Zionism exists is because Czar Alexander II was assassinated on Mar. 13, 1881. Alexander II was the last potent leader of Russia who tried to modernize a conservative, autocratic empire into industrialized prosperity universally beneficial to his people, and was liquidated by a British Freemasonic Zionist conspiracy which WANTED Alexander III to ascend into the throne and institute antisemitic policies alongside conservative rollback to ensure Russian Jews would be sufficiently repressed to support either Bolshevism or Zionism. In the wake of the October Revolution, the same Anglo-Vatican manufacturers of Communism invented the "Judeo-Bolshevik" myth to make sure Orthodox Christians will become too blind to recognize their true enemies are Roman papal oligarchs and Jesuit-organized fascists. What the Jesuits, Knights of Malta, Venetians, and Vatican want is the reconsolidation of Eastern Orthodoxy back into harmony with Catholicism, and that is why the Vatican supported Bolshevik destruction of the Czarist-era ROC -- its eventual Soviet co-opted revival would ensure the "new" "ROC" would be on the path to a collaborationist alliance with the Vatican.
The question that remains at the end of the day for you, Leo, is this: will you accept the truth in humility, show respect to the Orthodox martyrs who died at the hands of Anglo-Vatican bankrolled criminals, and denounce those Anglo-Vatican architects who destroyed the ROC, or will you become a fifth column agent propagating on behalf of the Putinist-Jesuit-Eurasianist psyop by throwing blame at the Jewish scapegoat?
Mr. Goldstein, pardon me, I don’t mean to offend, but your style is so turgid I can’t make out what it is you’re trying to convey. “Zionazi” I get, but it’s unnecessary. I guess you’re against the genocide, as are all people with the least amount of decency. In other words, everyone with an iota of common sense.
In short, your work smacks to me as conspiro-theorising. As a secular Jew, I admire the history and many of the Jesuit’s accomplishments. Not all. But how in hell did an always rather small society like the Jesuits get into your stories. Brits, nazis, bolshies, crazy zionists, et alia? Geez. Just saying.
In solidarity,
Pepe Bach
> "but your style is so turgid I can’t make out what it is you’re trying to convey"
Yes, the tone of my writing here on Substack has a bend to it. Initially it was my intention to write with "academic profession," but the insertion of sardonic humor is, to my admission, simply too fun to pass up.
> "but it's unnecessary"
It's not my fault the word "Zionazi" was coined with terrible tardiness; if mainstream observers were more than happy to use "Communazi" as a pejorative description of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, why not "Zionazi Pact" for Haavara?
> "your work smacks to me as conspiro-theorising"
Well, what am I supposed to believe, that global events are the product of organically random coincidences? Besides, I provided dozens of high-quality citations to prove the links in between, and pieced-together massive pictures necessitate sensibly condensed explanations.
> "But how in hell did an always rather small society like the Jesuits get into your stories"
Watch Walter Veith's "Total Onslaught" series, specifically his lectures on Freemasonry, secret societies, and the New World Order. The Jesuits as the inheritors of the Knights Templar Johannite/occult tradition comprise the central seat of the Satanic cauldron and therefore are the masters of cabalistic black magic among dark secrets of ancient knowledge employed to the most unscrupulously sinister ends.
> "Brits, nazis, bolshies, crazy zionists, et alia?"
I explained the connections in this article. If you read it in full, it should all add up.
Okay. Thanks for responding. I now feel obliged to read it in full. Pepe
No problem; if you have any further (good-faith) questions, I'll be happy to address them the best I can.
Freaking hilarious
?
This whole article relies on the assumption that there's a difference between the British upper class, the Catholic power elite, the Jesuits, and the freemasons, as opposed to "the Jews".
If you actually study the history of all of these groups you'll realise that Jews dominate all of them. In fact half of the time people mention "the Jews" we're talking about one or all of these groups.
The British central bank was bought by the Rothschilds (as was every other Western central bank), the Vatican bank is owned and controlled by the Rothschilds, the Jesuits were founded by Jewish "conversos", as was freemasonry.
To say the Jews didn't create communism but Anglo elites, Catholic elites, Jesuits, and Freemasons did, is akin to saying "a pack of dogs didn't bite this girl, rottweilers, dobermanns, and golden retrievers did"
That debunks the whole article
> "If you actually study the history of all of these groups you'll realise that Jews dominate all of them"
Okay, then please show me the evidence proving "the Jews dominate all of them." My article here is undergirded by 12 dozen footnotes -- you didn't cite ANY sources, Leo.
> "debunks the whole article"
Sigh, all you did is make claims, Leo. No refuting evidence was provided by you as of yet. Are you able to substantiate any of your arguments, yes or no?
> "British central bank was bought by the Rothschilds (as was every other Western central bank), the Vatican bank is owned and controlled by the Rothschilds, the Jesuits were founded by Jewish 'conversos', as was freemasonry"
Alright, let me address these claims real quick...
...first off, the Bank of England: yes, historically its most prominent shareholders was the Rothschild family. That doesn't prove however that all of British Scottish Rite Freemasonry is run by the Jews. The Rothschilds serve as "managerial stewards" appointed as middlemen and don't operate as the controllers out of their own magical will. The greatest trick by the world rulers is that they elevate court Jews into the most publicly visible positions of "authority" to trick the masses into believing "the Jews" are the ones dictating the scenes. So the fact you are pushing "Jewish control" narratives proves that you, Leo, have swallowed the very deception mechanism the world controllers are sending down your throat.
The Vatican isn't a subsidiary of the Rothschilds; quite to the contrary, it's actually the Rothschilds who are owned by the Vatican. Cf. "The Jewish Encyclopedia," vol. X, p. 497: https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Jewish_encyclopedia_a_descriptive_re/R0gYAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=rothschilds+guardians+of+the+papal+treasure&pg=PA497&printsec=frontcover
Jesuits founded by "Jewish conversos"? You're going to need evidence for that, buddy. The Jesuit Order was created, funded, and deployed by the Venetians and Knights of Malta. Also considering the Jesuits' centuries of ideological ultramontane orientation as chief promulgators of Catholic anti-Jewish hatred throughout Europe rallying pogromist mobs against the Jews, the idea they were created as a "crypto-Jewish" sect is completely ludicrous. Unless you're also willing to maintain consistency and thereby admit that the Nazis were puppets of the same "Jewish conspiracy," your arguments hold next to zero water, Leo.
Ironically, by promoting anti-Jewish propaganda, Leo, you are repeating the lies of the exact same Nazis who slaughtered millions of Orthodox Christians in WWII. You do realize this, don't you?
> "Okay, then please show me the evidence proving "the Jews dominate all of them." My article here is undergirded by 12 dozen footnotes -- you didn't cite ANY sources, Leo."
I didn't cite sources because the evidence about Rothschild ownership of central banks is widely known and only the most ignorant and uninformed among the masses are unaware of these facts. Was I giving you undue credit by assuming you weren't totally ignorant?
> "first off, the Bank of England: yes, historically its most prominent shareholders was the Rothschild family. That doesn't prove however that all of British Scottish Rite Freemasonry is run by the Jews."
Never said it did, this is a bad faith moving of the goalpost. I said the Rothschild ownership of the British central bank proves that Jews have gained a controlling influence over British policy and the political elites.
> "The Rothschilds serve as "managerial stewards" appointed as middlemen and don't operate as the controllers out of their own magical will."
It's not "managerialism" when you OWN the bank. This is a red herring.
> "The greatest trick by the world rulers is that they elevate court Jews into the most publicly visible positions of "authority" to trick the masses into believing "the Jews" are the ones dictating the scenes."
This just proves you're completely ignorant of the history. The Rothschilds did a hostile takeover of the central bank through deception, using the stock market. They had sent a spy to the battle of Waterloo, who informed them of Napoleon's defeat before anyone else in Britain knew. They pretended that Britain had lost the battle, which caused major British shareholders to sell their stocks, which were then covertly bought by an attorney of the Rothschild family.
They were never "elevated", like all Jews they gained their power by deception, lies, and manipulation.
> "So the fact you are pushing "Jewish control" narratives proves that you, Leo, have swallowed the very deception mechanism the world controllers are sending down your throat."
The truth about the Jewish question is the single most censored and frowned upon topic in the world. Meanwhile I can find dozens of mainstream media articles making the same nonsensical claims that you are making, about Jews being the eternal scapegoat. That should tell you which narrative is being forced down people's throats.
> "The Vatican isn't a subsidiary of the Rothschilds; quite to the contrary, it's actually the Rothschilds who are owned by the Vatican."
Do you even know what the word "subsidiary" means? Tell me who sounds like a subsidiary in these examples spanning centuries:
From mainstream Wikipedia articles:
However, Alessandro Torlonia (acting for the Holy See) held direct negotiations with James Mayer de Rothschild and thrashed out an agreement, signed on 30 November 1831. Thus in 1832 the Rothschilds’ agreement to provide a loan to the Holy See for £400,000 (equivalent to £4.7 million in 2023) came into force.[2]
James Mayer de Rothschild, head of the French Banque Rothschild, became the official Papal banker.[2] His Naples-based brother, Carl Mayer von Rothschild, geographically closer to Rome, went to meet with Pope Gregory XVI in January 1832. Here Carl Mayer was presented with the ribbon and star of the Sacred Military Constantinian Order of Saint George. It was customary for Catholics to show reverence for him whom they regarded as the Vicar of Christ, to kiss the Pope's feet when meeting him. As a Jew, Carl Mayer von Rothschild was permitted to simply kiss the ring on his hand instead.
Dr. Alfred Hartmann, a former general manager of Union Bank of Switzerland and later general manager of Rothschild A.G. in Zurich, was a director of Banco Ambrosiano’s holding company in the Bahamas. He resigned after a scandal involving payments to the alleged assassins of Roberto Calvi, the bank’s chairman .
Additionally, a 1984 report noted that a $46.5 million loan from Banco Ambrosiano was transferred into a Rothschild Zurich account in the name of Telada Corp, though it remained there only briefly before being moved elsewhere .
> "Jesuits founded by "Jewish conversos"? You're going to need evidence for that, buddy."
"It reveals that several studies have found that the Society's founder and its first Superior General Ignatius Loyola came from a converso family and that he had wished he had been Jewish to have the honor of being from the same race as Jesus and the Virgin Mary."
Source: "From Windfall to Fall: The Conversos in the Society of Jesus" - Arrow Marc Rastoin, S.J.
There's your source "buddy". Something you could have googled in 1 minute if you were actually a good faith debater.
> "Ironically, by promoting anti-Jewish propaganda, Leo, you are repeating the lies of the exact same Nazis who slaughtered millions of Orthodox Christians in WWII. You do realize this, don't you?"
This dishonest emotional appeal just further proves that you're not debating in good faith.
Anti-Jewish sentiments have existed in Orthodoxy for thousands of years before National Socialism came about, as have anti-Jewish sentiments in the West in general.
“The Jews sacrifice their children to Satan… They are worse than wild beasts. The synagogue is a brothel, a den of scoundrels, the temple of demons devoted to idolatrous cults, a criminal assembly of Jews, a place of meeting for the assassins of Christ, a house of ill fame, a dwelling of iniquity, a gulf and abyss of perdition…
The synagogue is a curse. Obstinate in her error, she refuses to see or hear; she has deliberately perverted her judgment; she has extinguished within herself the light of the Holy Spirit…
[The Jews] have fallen into a condition lower than the vilest animals. Debauchery and drunkenness have brought them to the level of the lusty goat and the pig. They know only one thing: to satisfy their stomachs, to get drunk, to kill and beat each other up like stage villains and coachmen…
I hate the Jews because they violate the Law. I hate the Synagogue because it hates the Law and the Prophets. It is the duty of all Christians to hate the Jews.”
- St. John Chrysostom, Homilies against the Jews
“The Zionists want to rule the world”, warned holy monk of Mt. Athos Elder Paisios before his death in 1994.
"And we shall see later on that this particular document (the protocols of the Elders of Zion) had a definite role to play in Germany. The philosophy which is described in this
document is one of absolute ruthlessness in bringing about a revolutionary government and in the means used to bring it about, the using
of people (like Marx used Bakunin), utter hypocrisy, killing off your enemies, spreading pornography in order to corrupt the youth, causing revolutions, taking first the side of monarchs, then the side of socialists, then the side of liberals, democrats; taking any side in order to push across your point of view and eventually come to power. They talk about the control of the press, the control of money, etc."
- Fr. Seraphim Rose, Orthodox survival course
Truth is universal, and the Orthodox Church (and Christianity in general) has been teaching this truth since its founding by Jesus Christ. Which is why the Jews have been intent on destroying Christianity for all this time.
So you're either extremely ignorant or very dishonest when you pretend this viewpoint is inextricably linked to Nazism, as if all of this is something that Hitler made up out of thin air.
Additionally there is no evidence to believe that the mass murder of Orthodox by the Catholic Croat Ustase was something sanctioned by Hitler, nor was it National Socialist policy in general. We know from the documents that Hitler tried to stop it as soon as he found out. Hitler had after all protected mount Athos from bombardments by placing the Monastic peninsula under his personal protection. Furthermore the White Russians had also supported the National Socialist cause after the October Revolution.
But of course when you're cherry picking events to support propagandistic Philosemitic historical revisionism, you can't allow for these nuances.
> "the White Russians had also supported the National Socialist cause after the October Revolution"
Yes, the White emigres supported the same Nazis who ended up slaughtering millions of Orthodox Christians in WWII when they broke the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and instigated Barbarossa. But according to you and your ilk, only the "Jewish Bolsheviks" (who were killed off by Stalin and didn't hold the real long-lasting power, mind you) can be blamed for the mass murder of Orthodox Christians while the Nazis are let off the hook. You demonstrate yourself a disgrace to the very Orthodox Christianity you claim a part of!
One day if the door of probation closes in your face and leaves you out of God's kingdom, don't say I "didn't warn you," Leo. Go on and reject the latter rain's droplets to your own demise. It's your own choice to make and with a profoundly shattered heart people like myself reap the privileged burden of watching people like yourself choose the path of reprobate perdition that will never be erased from our memories until the Almighty God makes everything new after the lake of fire and causes the old mortal realm's miseries to be forgotten.
Comprehending the truth is realizing that you and I are no fundamentally better than the average Jewish contemporaries of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ's earthly generation in the 1st century.
So when your arguments fail and your lies are exposed you resort to emotional appeals and manipulation tactics.
Are you even Orthodox (((Goldstein)))?
Who the hell are you to say who is a Christian?
Did you read St. John Chrysostom's quote? He's a lot harsher than me.
I'll answer your last question: I briefly scanned through your listed Chrysostom quote and am already broadly familiar with his anti-Jewish invective.
Chrysostom unfortunately was a fifth columnist -- he threw the Quartodecimans out of the Asia Minor churches. 2nd-century church history proves Quartodecimanism was based on biblical, apostolic teachings. Christianity is innately of Hebrew character, cf. my chiastic expositions here: https://adversusbabylon.substack.com/p/debunking-nazijewism-202
Other than that, I think my responses are sufficient for the meantime. At this point in my dilapidated, miserable, deprived, fed-up life state of perpetually nihilistic cyclical sanity erosion, I don't have the driving energy anymore to respond to your points, seeing you so far refuse an intake of my core message at hand. Why continue vainly attempting to persuade you further right now? On a concluding side note, do appreciate you checking out this article in the first place and engaging in the comment section here, Leo -- all the best to you.
"Chrysostom unfortunately was a fifth columnist"
This comment alone discredits you from any serious discussion about Christianity.
And you're proving my point with these disingenuous Jewish tactics.
This chutzpah is precisely the behaviour that gets your people in trouble. You trash our faith, call us fakes, then cry victim when Christian societies decide they don't want to harbour these vile manipulative parasites any more.
The fact you resort to citing Wikipedia on such historically buried and niche topics goes to demonstrate your narrative is built on a foundation of jello.
> "The truth about the Jewish question is the single most censored and frowned upon topic in the world. Meanwhile I can find dozens of mainstream media articles making the same nonsensical claims you are about Jews being the eternal scapegoat. That should tell you which narrative is being forced down people's throats"
That's one-dimensional association fallacy. If you understood how COINTELPRO co-optation mechanisms work, you wouldn't need to invoke such a bland argument, Leo.
I'm going to cut through the smokescreens and get to an important point seldom emphasized far enough, Leo: Orthodox-Jewish reconciliation all along was the true alleviation to preventing a wide range of Pandora's boxes from being opened. Why do you think hundreds of thousands of Russian Jews flocked to the Zionist criminal project occupying Palestine? The answer is very simple: because they were marginalized and alienated in the Russian Empire and USSR, and were easy prey falling for Anglo-Zionist propaganda blitzes.
It's people like YOU, Leo, who are part of a generationally responsible current fueling the very so-called "Jewish criminality" you claim to oppose. The more you go off about ranting about Jewish world control garbage canards, the more you drive Jewish populations into supporting Marxist and Zionist criminal projects because those Jewish swaths who feel they are "persecuted" will all the more align themselves with liberal, Communist, neo-Marxist, and Zionist "patrons" co-opting their plight into false and criminal hopes.
The reason Zionism exists is because Czar Alexander II was assassinated on Mar. 13, 1881. Alexander II was the last potent leader of Russia who tried to modernize a conservative, autocratic empire into industrialized prosperity universally beneficial to his people, and was liquidated by a British Freemasonic Zionist conspiracy which WANTED Alexander III to ascend into the throne and institute antisemitic policies alongside conservative rollback to ensure Russian Jews would be sufficiently repressed to support either Bolshevism or Zionism. In the wake of the October Revolution, the same Anglo-Vatican manufacturers of Communism invented the "Judeo-Bolshevik" myth to make sure Orthodox Christians will become too blind to recognize their true enemies are Roman papal oligarchs and Jesuit-organized fascists. What the Jesuits, Knights of Malta, Venetians, and Vatican want is the reconsolidation of Eastern Orthodoxy back into harmony with Catholicism, and that is why the Vatican supported Bolshevik destruction of the Czarist-era ROC -- its eventual Soviet co-opted revival would ensure the "new" "ROC" would be on the path to a collaborationist alliance with the Vatican.
The question that remains at the end of the day for you, Leo, is this: will you accept the truth in humility, show respect to the Orthodox martyrs who died at the hands of Anglo-Vatican bankrolled criminals, and denounce those Anglo-Vatican architects who destroyed the ROC, or will you become a fifth column agent propagating on behalf of the Putinist-Jesuit-Eurasianist psyop by throwing blame at the Jewish scapegoat?
Choice is yours, friend.
"All of my lies are facts, all of your demonstrable historical facts are cointelpro"
It's called confirmation bias bubba. You're a sophist.